Proctor and Gamble Doesn't Disclose Ingredients in Sanitary Pads, etc. B/C They're a Medical Device?

Monsanto has bullied, bought and cheated away our right to know what we are eating and feeding our children and grandchildren, in America. No problem. As we get cancer and disease, the Pharmaceuticals can clean up with major profits.

Proctor and Gamble doesn't have to disclose what toxic ingredients are in their tampon and sanitary pads because they are considered a medical device? Watch the experiment with pads shown on this video. Imagine. Women in the US get to absorb whatever chemicals are in these products monthly, as the cancer rates soar.

Eric Holder recuses himself from giving any information or testimony. The IRS minimizes White House involvement from the top, by defining their harassment of political groups as "bad customer service". A lead IRS witness takes the 5th. The Press is investigated in the name of 'national security'. People are afraid to speak out or even voice their opinion on the phone, as they can be labeled a 'terrorist', be neutralized or harmed in some way.

The clearest sign of our Rogue, Authoritarian Government is the punishment of Whistle Blowers. Or is it the total erosion of the Constitution w/ the ability to declare war without Congressional approval, the drones, the FEMA camps, the NDAA so people can disappear, the silent campaign for a year to push fluoridation of the public water supply without public consent in one of the last non-fluoridated major cities? Take your pick, but be aware. Beware.

Could the cheating and fraud get any worse?





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"You're the Answer that Makes My Questions Disappear...."

Just a different angle, to revisit some history, waiting to be unearthed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4w_AG2f8Lw



So, (the famous intro line of NPR(National Public Radio)) the witnesses and survivors who told of the 'explosions', and the water-tight witness: Bldg 7.

After looking at the news this morning....Thoughts.

http://now.msn.com/hillary-clinton-benghazi-testimony-shows-argument-between-clinton-and-senator-ron-johnson

Ordering help to 'stand down' after misleading the public w/ some stupid video- sparked action suggestion, means prison. Not rhetoric. Stop the vacuous 'lawyer speak'. Whistle blowers are getting harassed or killed in Obama’s administration, ordered by the ‘Chief’. It is the Patriots that are ‘standing down’, to live with themselves the rest of their lives. We need to go retroactive, and take care of all the 'Stand down' and changed Protocols, from 9/11 Towers and Bldg 7 which showcased the 'real controlled demolition story', which included....insurance fraud---financed by higher rates for the American People.... The Pentagon fraud-missile. 

Oh that's right. What's the difference in financing a war by dead Americans? 3000+ all the war dead, the civilian dead, the hungry and elderly who go hungry to feed an illegal war. Our borders open to do a controlled demolition on economics, schools are closing, but we can send soldiers who will be pharmaceutically abandoned once they return, if they do. Like Rodriguez’s song: “And give a medal to replace the son of Mrs. Annie Johnson” For what? A UN agenda? The filthy rich? So the Banksters can take over one of 4-5 countries left without their Banking scourge?

Boots down. Gun Control so we can't protect ourselves. Remember Katrina, where women were raped by New Orleans Police, etc. w/ no protection? Citizens ordered to turn in their guns, against Constitutional Rights to Protection? Boots down, asking if the high and dry citizens needed help while kicking down their doors, and demanding the guns. Did you know any verbal protesters were 'tuffed and cuffed' and arrested? A practice run of the Despot.

Why do we live in a country where it's common knowledge the Government is trying to thin the herd with poisoning the food, the air and water-drugs and vaccines, and the confusion is, "Who is minding the store?" What does it take for action and protection? Which Enforcement and Judicial offices have had their beams strapped with Nano Thermate, (the military grade of Nano Thermite)-with a letter stuffed full of money, or threats, to ensure criminal Government actions? The corruption level is no less than Organized Crime. The Gang of 8.

Where are our leaders? Were they herded (politicians, media and actors) into a large room of late, to drink champagne and tolerate inane jokes from a lying President? Laughing, grateful to be included?  If you speak out, the IRS can be sent to harass you and bankrupt your life with legal fees, or worse. How many witnesses from 9/11 have been murdered, along with their families, like Philip Marshall? But hey, let's toast the Chief, with our gowns, guffaws and hair products. Do we really all need a tuning fork to recognize a Liar? Is this harsh and unfounded? Not if you don't have your head in the sand.

This is the age of "I recuse myself", in a blatant attempt to avoid accountability. Does it matter if Holder and Obama lie about 'not knowing'? Bush in the classroom? Rumsfield away from his Pentagon post, so he couldn't give the order to protect the Washington DC No Fly zone w/ jets that fly faster than the speed of sound? Why isn’t it media news every day, that the Protocols to Protect DC were re-instated on 9/12? No focus on the removal of evidence from both sites? Our regime just murders to accomplish their goals with White Glove Dinner courtesy, and a President so full of self-hatred, his lying cheating voice falls flat. Soulless. While his henchmen, like Hillary Clinton, hope that the aneurysm won’t get in the way of her next chess move. Where is the Robin Williams’ waiter to tell them all,  “Your table is ready?” Like Dr. Leonard Coldwell says, “We do not forget”. Those of us who have avoided the fluoride...do not forget. We wait to see the karma of justice.

And by the way, "give a medal to replace the son of Mrs. Annie Johnson…"
One of Rodriguez's songs, via Youtube or the album.  'Cause'

03 Cause 1-1.mp3

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Potpourri of Happiness, Intelligent Folk, Music, Mistakes and Warning...

Potpourri on a Sunday....after the Peppy Kernals for Porridge.











One of the biggest missteps of America. Not electing Ron Paul.






Listen to the military personnel report the violations of personal rights to protection in Katrina--Military trained to break into homes while asking if help was needed, and confiscating guns---of homes well above any flooding. Listen to the elderly toughed and cuffed in their own homes, and how any verbal protest meant throw-down and arrest.

Establishing precedent for authoritarian agendas...

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Psychiatric Medications: Disease Mongering

The video below shares numerous professionals reporting on what has happened to the American public. How many people do you know that have been diagnosed with a 'disorder' and drugged? How many of the school killings in the US were done by psychiatric drugged individuals, and did you know 50% of the suicides are on psychiatric drugs?

What is the connection between the Pharmaceuticals, the FDA and the Doctors? See this film and decide for yourself.



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When Should You Fire Your Physician?

I'm going to share a video on Fluoride used in Concentration Camps, and why the level is the same in fluoridated communities. After the race riots in our history, the water was fluoridated, in a particular order.

This Pathologist speaks the truth, and you will know it when you hear him. Everyone in our country should hear this video....



Here the same Physician is, sharing why Cancer Treatments kill the patient, not cancer. He has done autopsies on thousands of people who had cancer.



Dr. Lorraine Day talks about how she healed from Cancer:



Dr. Leonard Coldwell speaks about his history with genetic family cancer, and why he has a 'slight problem with the medical profession'.


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A Closer Look at a Dog Bite...

A Closer Look at a Dog Bite...

I have a 67-year-old friend who got deep puncture wounds from a dog bite. I wrote about it in a previous post, and shared some pictures. How serious are dog bites? Well, he has gone down some horrible rabbit hole of an experience.

The bite happened at 5 pm at the end of March. The police called him at 7 pm and he called me at 9pm, too tired to think of going to the doctor's till the next day. I was able to convince him to seek care immediately, as the saliva from animal bites can cause cellulitis and blood poisoning. His bite happened while on a bicycle, slowly navigating past a group of young people. The dog was not on a leash, somehow he had escaped or been let out of his fenced yard. As my friend slowly made his way by a group of young people, the young man, son of the owner, assured him it was a 'friendly dog'. Slowly, the older dog made his way to my friend's bicycle, sort of like an old curious dog, and then he chomped down on my friend's ankle. The dog had bitten a woman on the arm who was walking by a few years ago, and had picked up her small dog to keep him safe. She reported it to the police. Whether they wrote a report is questionable. Since the owner told my friend State Farm has paid 3 claims in 10 years, I am wondering how many were regarding dog bites from this animal?

The hospital gave my friend Doxycline and Cleocin (Clindamycin). Upon reading about Cleocin, (the patient ratings and side effects which are horrible-including death), and because my friend is very sensitive to many medications, the following day when seeing his own doctor, he was put on Septra DS or Bactrim. It had a worse rating than Cleocin. One of the side effects of both is death, I believe. Several days later, the bite wasn't healing. Cellulitis set in. It's where there's an infection deep in the tissues. Then it formed an abscess and needed lancing. My friend was put on yet another antibiotic. Ceftin.

 Antibiotics set people up for yeast infections and urinary tract infections, as they imbalance the good and bad bacteria in the digestive tract, and create an acid environment conducive to the growth of yeast and fungus.  Pro...biotics help build back the good bacteria. Some doctors encourage their patients to eat yogurt. Fermented veggies are also good for their probiotics or good flora.

3-4 weeks of this soreness, using crutches at first, swelling and bruising, not being able to sleep except briefly, in one position, etc., he was diagnosed with a Urinary Tract Infection.  The Kaiser Doc put him on Cipro. Two doses of that, and he woke in pain, his skin burning, etc. Then purplish rash appeared on one hip, down the leg, and in some pretty private, sensitive parts....
Think ...all of them. Shingles can be triggered by Cipro. They can also be triggered by injury, trauma and stress. Just knock the immune system down far enough, or be fighting some kind of disease or cancer, and Shingles can be the beacon of caution and warning. Shingles in the eyes is very serious, and in the brain, can cause death. They also can re-emerge... forever.

There has been a new phenomena after Chickenpox vaccines, as adults are getting Shingles at an alarming rate, and even kids are getting it. The virus sheds and is quite contagious. It seems the new problem of Shingles outbreaks for young and old that has been caused by the Pharmaceutical marketing of the Chickenpox vaccine, also make them money in selling the idea of getting Shingles vaccines (some docs say they're useless, and stats show about a 51% effective rate. It's the adjuvants, the MSG and aborted fetal tissue used to grow the ingredient needed that introduces foreign proteins to each poor fool that takes it, that is causing havoc. And of course, there are many cases of people getting Shingles from the vaccine. Foreign proteins set up autoimmune diseases and cancer, by the way. Read some of the forums on Shingles to get an idea of the pain, joint pain, etc., involved. Like anything else, when the immune system is hammered, a person is susceptible to virus's, bacteria, etc.

Now, the Health Dept. was faxed the dog bite info the following morning from the Hospital ER room. The dog was not picked up for the State-mandated 10-day observation by the Police Dept., in concert with the Animal Control Officer. The next morning, the female owner reported the dog had been 'run over'. Not one agency verified that report, or took responsibility to make sure it was verified, and besides the initial Police phone call at 7, and a few afterwards after I contacted Chief Conner, no agency spoke to my friend until a week had passed, and only because I contacted the Animal Control Officer, the Police, and later, the Health Dept. official. The dog should have been dug up if indeed it was dead. A Vet with a mask and goggles for protection has to remove the head as a sample and send it in so the brain is tested for Rabies. A Rabies shot is not fail safe, and sometimes actually infects an animal. This dog admittedly by the owner, ran wild, despite Leash Laws.

Since Rabies takes 1-3 months, and in one case up to 7 years to surface in the victim, it has been a cruel and unusual punishment to have negligent public agencies that had to be pushed to do their job, and that failed to protect and ensure my friend for his peace of mind, that he does not have a possibility of Rabies. When the wound starts itching, or he drives himself to a hospital for shooting pain for possible nerve damage, there are questions not put to rest.

The Police Officer told my friend he'd have to ask permission of the owner to send the dog's head in, and pay the $100 himself. His Chief didn't agree the bite victim would have to pay for this test, but he also didn't move ahead with the proper agencies to verify the dog's death for my friend's health and safety and mental suffering, or for the next victim, should the dog still be alive, but only hidden.

The Health Dept. official told my friend he considered the bite a minor risk of Rabies-a week later, and the budget wouldn't pay for it, but my friend could, at $100-1000. My friend didn't know the dog even was recorded as having a Rabies vaccine for a week after the bite. The young man who told him the dog was friendly, also told him the dog had his Rabies vaccine. Even that has not been verified by the Vet reportedly involved, as far as I know.

The Animal Control Officer and Policeman involved, both asked my friend if he wanted them to write up a Citation, though the ORS protocol is clear. The next victim wouldn't appreciate them skating their Civil and Criminal responsibilities, would they, asking a Bite Victim to direct their legal protocols? Not until I told the Animal Control Officer that I was writing this up on a personal blog and sent him the bite pictures did he write up the Citations. It makes one wonder what we are paying for, with our taxes. I emailed the AC Officer that it sounded like Fraud to me--collecting paychecks, but not following protocols for public protection.

Rabies symptoms can take 1-3 months, or up to 7 years to surface, as shared. There have also been cases where entire packs of dogs being trained with coyotes or animals outside of their area had to be put down after becoming infected with Rabies, despite them having Rabies shots prior to the exercise. This suggests that there are variants of  Rabies.

Here is some information to help address these Shingles:

(A Chiropractor wrote that intravenous Vitamin C helped almost immediately. My friend is trying the Probiotic, B Complex, Vitamin C w/ bioflavanoids and Nutriferon route.) He was also given an anti-viral.

Shingles Testimonial:

Pat Stemmed says, "I take all the nutrients daily, but when I came down with a case of shingles, I doubled all the supplements that help supply nerves: B Complex, Lecithin, and Calcium/Magnesium.  I did this for 2-3 days and also made a cream to use topically from Herbal Blend Multi-Cream mixed with the oil from Vita-E capsules.  " She pricked them with a pin and squeezed the oil out. She said she had an area about the size of a grapefruit on her upper back and it was gone in about 10 days

Testimony on Shingles

 I first got shingles when I was pregnant with my first child 5 years ago. It broke out on my right thigh and right arm. Very painful. The Dr.  told me that it is a form of the herpes virus like a cold sore, etc. I was told that stress brings it out and when I find myself in unusually high stress I have had tendencies to breakouts. B-Complex is awesome for this and so is Cal-Mag. I regularly take Vita-Lea, soy protein, Sustained Release-C, Alfalfa, and Optiflora.   I haven't had an outbreak in quite sometime!

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HealthOne, Anna Hammons  Date: 12/22/99 11:06:33 AM CentralFrom:Sue@T... (Susan L Holdren)    Obviously the Basics and Protein are important, but the real "miracle worker" is the B-Complex.  Shingles is a virus (the same one that causes Chicken Pox in young children) and it causes painful itching along certain nerve tracks. In very simplified terms, the B Complex helps the nerves to heal and resist the "over-reaction" caused by the virus. It is important that the person continue to supplement with B-Complex in order to prevent recurrence of the shingles. This has worked for my aunt who would get shingles every year. She has not had them for 8 years now - she's 85. Each person is different, so "how many?" is a difficult question to answer. It would probably be a good idea to start with 4 a day (evenly spaced) and increase until a level of maximum improvement is found. (I take 12 - 16 on high stress days.) Good luck. Sue

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Here are nutrients that can greatly speed the healing of Shingles, and help avoid a recurrence:

* SHINGLES: *

   1. VITAMIN C: immune support; speeds up healing

   2. B COMPLEX: provides nutrients needed for healing the nerve damage

   3. ZINC: needed for healing of connective tissue

   4. NUTRIFERON: Powerful stimulation of body’s own interferon production.

   5. VITAMIN E + SELENIUM: immune support; speeds up healing

   6. CAROTOMAX: immune support; heals epithelial tissue

   7. COQHEART: increases healing energy

   8. OPTIFLORA: strengthens immune system; reduce toxin load

   9. GARLIC: for the immune system

  10. DTX: reduce toxin load

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Here are nutrients and herb tea that greatly speed the healing of Urinary Tract Infections, (UTI's), also known as Bladder Infections and that can become Kidney Infections if not healed soon enough.

Marshmallow tea helps cut the pain quickly, unlike the nasty orange urine-producing Western Medicine ---Pyridium. I should know about this, as before I was diagnosed with Endocervical Cancer in 2004, I had recurring UTI's, especially after sexual activity. At the same time, I was fighting recurrent Sinus Infections. Both urinary tract infections and sinus infections are all symptoms of Candida. See nutrients to address that, below. Grapefruit Seed Extract should be added to that list. It is a powerful healer. Nature's antibiotics rarely have side effects, or list DEATH as one of the side effects. Just food for thought....

*Note: The DNA of Candida is cancer. Dr. Simoncini, an Italian Oncologist treats his patients with Bicarbonate of Soda, as it's a fungus problem, which speaks to a PH problem. Sunlight, exercise and meditation and deep breathing all help fight cancer. We all have Candida, but it has to be balanced. Antibiotics and steroids, etc. kill the good gut bacteria and allow the bad bacteria to grow wild. When the Candida morphs to the Fungal form, it goes thru the gut walls with its roots, and particles or molecules of proteins from the food we eat, go into the body, causing food allergies. We in America have been a gluten-based society. However, even stopping gluten may not be the whole answer, if the Candida is not addressed. One of the nutrients that prevent the morphing of Candida from a yeast or bacteria to a fungus, is BIOTIN. This ingredient is in Shaklee's Vita Lea multi-vitamin, 100%, and is in a BIO-AVAILABLE form. Many people waste their money and time with nutrients that just are not usable by the body. Shaklee coats their Vita Lea with Folic Acid. This opens up in the stomach, instead of being bound up in some capsule. 

If people will listen, this little 50+ yr. old company holds some important product information that can save or extend their lives, and bring vigorous health. Our food should be our medicine, but most are not eating well, or in balance. Supplements help bridge the gaps. I don't use it and recommend it for any small profit involved. My website has a lot of product information. 

You can check out these products at: http://leangreencafe.myshaklee.com or call 1-800-SHAKLEE and give then my Shaklee number: WB06068 to order. I spend individual time with my customers. Contact me at www.leangreencafe@yahoo.com, or at pamcohenmsw@gmail.com, or my phone number is on-

www.counselingwithpamela.com

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* CANDIDA:  *(avoid sugar, fruit juices, alcohol, caffeine, white flour, simple carbs and uncultured dairy products.)

   1. GARLIC: destroys overgrowth of yeast

   2. OPTIFLORA: replaces friendly bacteria

   3. VITA C: strengthens the immune system

   4. B COMPLEX: increases absorption (candida prevents absorption of nutrients)

   5. ZINC: strengthens the immune system

   6. VITAMIN E + SELENIUM: strengthens the immune system

   7. CAROTOMAX: strengthens the immune system

   8. NUTRIFERON: to strengthen the weakened immune system

    **Online Enzyme Product Called Candex breaks down Candida cell walls without die-off symptoms.

    **Digestive Enzymes like Shaklee’s EZGest can also help.

Grapefruit Seed Extract

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* CANCER: * (purify the air you breathe . AirSource is no longer sold by Shaklee) Get reasonable SUN exposure for natural Vitamin D. It is said breast cancer may be a disease of Vitamin D deficiency. The breast tissue (fat) also stores toxins.

    Request ‘Natural Solutions to Cancer’ CD. Dr. Sandra Bevacqua educates Medical Dr’s on using Nutrition for Cancer.

    Change the pH Environment of your blood and body w/ diet, water, supplements, oxygenating exercise.

    Cancer thrives in acid and low oxygen. So do bacteria, virus’s and parasites.

    Get a Bestwater coconut shell carbon medium water filter for pure alkaline water. On or under counter or pitcher.

     9.1 pH tested w/ professional tester w/ tap water. (Area supply may differ.)

     Approx. $220 Member price. 22cents gal 1^st yr. and.09 gal. the second year or 1000 gallons, with new filter. Or, get the Shaklee Pitcher, costing about $100 for a year for a family of four. Don't skimp on clean water w/ less efficient filters.

     Reduces chlorine, lead, toxic organic compounds and parasite cysts 98.3-99.95%

     Important: **See Parasite Cleanse Info pg. 15 of this document: Common Ailments

   1. VITA C: increases production & stimulation of T-killer cells which destroy cancer cells

   2. CAROTOMAX: strengthens immune system; greatly reduces risk of epithelial tissue cancer

   3. VITAMIN E + SELENIUM: powerful free radical scavenger

   4. NUTRIFERON: strengthens the immune system

   5. ZINC: strengthens the thymus gland for a stronger immune system

   6. GARLIC: enhances the immune system: causes T-killer cells to be more active

   7. GLA: immune system strengthener / slows down cellular multiplication

   8. B COMPLEX: increases speed of the immune system response

   9. HERB-LAX: reduces body toxins

  10. OPTIFLORA: increases friendly bacteria

  11. COQHEART: energizes the healing power in each cell

  12. LECITHIN: strengthens neurotransmitters which allows communication to the nervous system

  13. DTX: Reduce the toxin load in the body

  14. ALFALFA: blood purifier and mineral smorgasbord

  15. EXTRA SOY PROTEIN: contains anti-cancer components

***Ask for the Natural Options for Cancer Resource List/See Page 15 of this document.

     on: www.leangreencafe.blogspot.com

You don’t necessarily need all of the above. Ask for help for a personalized list of nutrients. Vitalizer and Non-GMO Soy Protein and Nutriferon is a great place to start, as is baking soda and maple syrup or molasses in water upon waking, Turmeric tea, etc. There are many success stories for aiding in the healing and/or remission of cancer using holistic methods.. You read them and judge for yourself. Tweak your diet to alkaline, juice for optimal nutrients w/ minimal digestive energy needed, green smoothies and organics. A necessity is Optiflora. Nutriferon at 4-6 a night with an extra dose of protein has been used to erase all evidence of pancreatic cancer. Research Hulda Clark, Bryzinski, Dr. Revici, Dr. Simoncini, Dr. Lorraine Day, Dr. Gonzales. Western Medicine obviously doesn’t have all, or many times, any answers. Critical thinking, or thinking for yourself can save your life. One man whose doctor almost killed him with malpractice for his heart issues, wrote the book :I Fired My Doctor and Saved My Life. Cancer treatment fraud is as plentiful as those pink ribbons. It’s a profitable business. 

A good Plan Overview: Detox (Parasite cleanse and Colon Cleanse) and Good Nutrition w/ supplements, Exercise and Sunlight.

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Bait and Switch with Carpet Purchase

My Experience with this Carpet Store, below:
Update on May 5, 2013 at end of blog...

Carpet Mill Outlet - Southeast Portland - Milwaukie, OR

www.yelp.com/biz/carpet-mill-outlet-milwaukie - Cached

 Rating: 4 - 1 review

Aug 29, 2011 ... 1 Review of Carpet Mill Outlet "If your budget can't support the fancy rugs you ... Milwaukie, OR 97222 ... http://www.carpetmill-portland.com ...

**Note: By the way, I have yet to filter my Google Ads on the right. When I saw the food group chart suggesting not to eat egg yolks, just know that there's enough choline in the egg to take care of the cholesterol. Docs are scaring people w/ heart attacks, etc. in order to push their anti-cholesterol drugs. The body needs cholesterol. Just watch what sugars and kinds of fats you ingest. And Stay Away...from GMO's and processed foods. I watched the following video this morning. This family has the right idea. They also comment on climate change at the end...

First of all, I am less than excited about my cheesecake picture on the previous post. I did it hurriedly, even including the poor paper napkin, which added to the lackluster results. Regardless of the picture-of a half piece of Chocolate Cappaccino Cheesecake-just know that it was wildly delicious, and popular with everyone that got to taste it. I just would forget to photograph the lovely chocolate leaf and raspberry adorning the whipped cream on the substantial piece of cheesecake, until there was just one piece left to split and share. Alas, a hurried photo, as my promise on this blog had yet to be completed. Guilt had taken over. A couple of neighbors suggested I start a small bakery. Hmm. If I can just get the flooring in, so my life can go beyond remodeling with a house of tools and furniture, I will celebrate. Then maybe I can be in the kitchen for longer periods of time, in an organized home. After remodeling for years, I am a bit crispy on the edges, and am looking forward to a break.

I shopped for carpet for some time, at the Big Box stores w/ their Free Labor sales, and at smaller places, more focused on just flooring, etc. Because my living room in this little doublewide has a large seam, I wanted the carpet to have enough threads and height, so it wouldn't show, unlike the dirty gray indoor/outdoor carpet I was replacing. After Home Depot added all their extras, and I couldn't get some rolls of pad on Craig's List to save money, as they said they wouldn't install or insure the job unless it was their pad, I found a carpet w/ a green and cranberry fleck in it at Carpet Mill Outlet in Milwaukie, Oregon, that was really nice. The pad I installed from Home Depot on a previous house with a favorite carpet I found, was just flat and lifeless, and they seem to make their money on the pad, despite the 'free' labor.

This wonderful carpet was at Carpet Mill Outlet, in Milwaukie, Oregon, and Dean, the sales guy told me repeatedly, "I'd love the carpet." It was popular, etc. I got a sample of it, and have kept that sample, visualizing how walking barefoot on some great pad underneath would feel. It was a $14 a yard carpet, he said, and after selling the first part of the roll, Dean said I could have it for $12 a yard. Even though Depot had $6 a yard product, I just couldn't do the job with some cheap carpet and regret seeing the seam, and I had bonded to the vision of this particular cushy, better quality carpet. Emotional nesting is a mistake when you're flipping real estate, but sometimes the extra little money you spend can help sell the place quickly. People like quality.

Well, I put a deposit on the 70 yards I needed, and Dean added labor and pad, though I told him I may shop for those things, because I don't like paying through a shop, and I know where to find good deals, like men who do side jobs for $3 a yard installation, vs. $4-5, and I knew about rolls of pad, even Memory Foam that was much less than his 8# rebond product.

Well, I'm still forcing myself to function after my father's wrongful death, and trying to balance that goring sadness with staying away from cancer remission. After putting money down, $500, I thought that would 'force' me to get the painting done. As in the whole house. 2 bedrooms and 1 bath, a huge living room and dining room, and the kitchen. This in addition to developing a web counseling business and landscaping, etc. , filled my days.

I got very ill from a cigarette exposure, then spent a couple of months with the results of an electrical job that went bad, waiting for the electrician to come and fix it, a daughter had some legal troubles and was pregnant, etc. The painting was just not getting done, and I was really uncomfortable waiting too long, with $500 of my money in a company that could fold, like so many are doing.

I also have never remodeled a mobile home, and wasn't sure with the elderly that live here with inside pets and smoking and wheelchairs at times, if this carpet was the right one. I finally called Dean and told him I was seriously thinking of just canceling this purchase, and waiting till I was ready to install the flooring. He told me it would cost me 25% of the job, for a 'restocking fee'. I told him he had taken money directly out of my bank account, and I had not signed any contract agreeing to that kind of fee, and wouldn't have bought anything from him if I was aware of it. I was not willing to pay any fee. No. He said he'd "ask his boss" about it when "he got in."

Meanwhile, I was really upset, and Dean finally came back and offered a 10% restocking fee vs. the 25%, as if they could arbitrarily just make money on me, now that they had the $500. Later, as the painting dragged on, he mentioned 25% again. I told him I'd think about things.  I decided just to go ahead, but I told him I'd take a while painting, etc., that I was not moving ahead quickly. I also said I wanted to see the roll of carpet, to make sure it was what I bought. A young Depot personnel had illuminated me as a Buyer, that the samples for color on the carpet boards always showed the top grade of carpet, but that the person buying, would not be getting that. It was for color, only, though you've visualized and fallen in love with the luxurious swatch. You had to know which questions to ask, and hope there was a 'swatch' of the lessor end stuff. What a fraudulent misrepresentation.

Well, time went by, and I'd check in with Dean. He started pushing for me to get the idea they'd like to charge me storage, and they wanted to get the deal done by the end of the year. I told him money was tight, (a less quality carpet would save me about $400) and I should just get a refund, so we were in this awkward place. I started just making payments to finish out the $840 carpet bill. I talked to his carpet layer, and wasn't impressed with his attitude. He seemed angry when I asked him about his pricing, and wanted to negotiate, as I could get it done for less. He may have just had a rough day, or been in the middle of an installation. Again, I told Dean I was uncomfortable until I could see the carpet. He assured me "I'd love the carpet", and said he could have sold it numerous times. I told him maybe he should, but he wasn't going to let go of the sale. I just didn't want to end up in some Small Claims Court, and it was headed there.

After getting installation bids, and having one contractor flake out after waiting for installation for 2-3 weeks more, I finally found a young man who charged $3 a yard to lay carpet, and would match the $100 previous labor bid for the vinyl, and even charge me the same vinyl price for installing some engineered hardwood that I had been given, if I decided to go that way. He turned out to be the most honest, responsible, absolute finest installation artisan I've ever experienced.

So, the day came after vinyl installation, to get the roll of carpet. The young man called ahead, and went to get it. The large carpet roll was high up on the shelf at this huge warehouse, and had to be taken down with a Fork Lift.  This is why when I came in twice, I was unable to 'SEE' the roll of carpet. It's up too high, and there's no ladder.  

So, I was finishing up the floor prep, pulling staples, and doing last minute repairs.  When I went out to my installer's van and saw the roll, and pulled back the corner, I could instantly tell it was not the same carpet that "I bought", and got my sample. The young installer (6 years of experience) said this happens all the time. He verified the sample and the roll were different quality products. It was a way Carpet dealers make more money, he said. Most people just look at the color, and don't notice the sparse threads, probably scratching their heads, thinking they must have not remembered correctly. What a great feeling, being an adult, and being 'duped' by dishonest business people.

I asked my installer what percentage of people had this experience. He said 50%. The only ones who usually don't, are the ones paying $30 a yard for their carpet. He said about 1 in 5 get mad, but end up doing nothing. With the house torn up, sleeping on the floor, fumes of vinyl and caulking and paint, I had to get this done. Many people have taken off the day at work, etc. and are stuck with this Bait and Switch fraud. If I were to send it back, I'd just hear more blackmail about them keeping 25% of my money-this time about 25% of $840, as it was paid in full. I don't think so....

I called Dean at Carpet Mill Outlet, and when he answered the phone, he sounded like he was expecting the call, with a Cheshire cat grin in his voice.

I told him, "This is Home Depot's cheap carpet, (like the in-stock rolls) just what I didn't want, and didn't buy." I spent twice as much to get a better selling price on this house.  He insisted that they had been in business a long time, and they were 'honest'. I interrupted him, and said they weren't honest, and I knew that when they tried to get 25% of the cost of the job if I were to change my mind. I told him I'd be going to every carpet place, to verify the difference in carpet, and I'd also speak to the Attorney General's Consumer Department. What he doesn't know, is I will not only review my experience on my personal blog, but if they don't refund part of the purchase price and make this right, I will also send this review to RipOff.com, Better Business Bureau, and the Business Review listings on the internet. I notice they're on Angie's List, also. Consumers do have more options today because of internet visibility and accountability.

The installer showed me the inside of the backing on the cheap carpet roll was black, and the inside of my sample is whitish gray. The difference when stepping on Memory Foam is huge. Flat with what I got. Cushy with the other carpet I had paid for.

What a waste of time going to Small Claims Court, but I am tired of the corruption in this country. No one likes getting cheated or stolen from. I made an apple pie while the installer laid the carpet, trying to work out my anger. The poor top crust stuck to the counter, and instead of patiently dusting w/ flour and fixing it, I put it on the pie and just pinched it together. The pie looked like it had a headache, when it was done. Scrunched-up dough for a forehead. A headache, just like the pie baker.

I also learned that the expensive Memory Foam now pushed by Home Depot-(mine had their name stamped on it) is not consistent from one side of the roll to the other. One side is noticeably thinner, and the other thicker. The installer said most of the installers try to use the thinner side next to the walls, and the thicker in the center of the rooms. So, does getting 50% less in the product set well with you, or basically, an inconsistent product? This stuff sells for $213 for 30 sq. yds in the roll or (6'x45' = 30 sq. yds.) .79cents a square foot or x9: $7.11a sq. yd.
You can buy it online. ;-{ If Carpet Mill Outlet makes another 50% in delivering lower quality carpets, just think how a roll of Memory Foam for $213, with 50% less on one half of the roll makes profits. The contractor cost for this roll is about $80 per roll, by the way. It is not fraudulent to make a living. What is fraudulent is to misrepresent a product by passing out better quality samples than what you'll deliver or folks have paid for, or have your carpet color cards only show the quality samples, or sell an inconsistent product w/ half the thickness.

Something I also learned about image management, is the company with bad reviews will have some good reviews written, and use those to push the bad ones on later web pages, making it look like they're a great business. This gives invalid results for unsuspecting consumers. When I asked my young installer which company he'd send people to, he couldn't tell me. He did mention one, but he sees it all. Did I mention cut and paste, as in relentless reviews until I see a refund of this fraud? Some of us are nicknamed Snarler as a kid when we've been hurt repeatedly, and strangely, though we know how to maintain adult composure, don't welcome more victimization.

PS: I paid $500 to 'hold' the carpet about a year ago, and then have had numerous setbacks, explained above, to get to installing it. They should have just refunded the money long ago, as there was no contract. To avoid court, I just kept plodding along. Dean and his company, Carpet Mill Outlet have had ONE YEAR to think about sending me the carpet I actually purchased, supposedly waiting on their huge attic storage, by the huge back delivery door of their store. Would this bait and switch misrepresentation be called premeditated? Sadly, it has become standard....in this industry. Too familiar.

I just contacted the Oregon Attorney General's Consumer's Division to file a complaint. Actually two of them. One is with Home Depot's misrepresentation and pad product. The man answering the phone, Miles, is a volunteer to direct people. He can't promise what will happen, of course. I've dealt with this department before, and they just basically refer people out, to disperse whatever energy you have left. You get a letter of who you can talk to. My prior experience was one of feeling like it wasn't about resolution, but passing the buck. 

I told him carpet is the tip of the iceberg, essentially, and I didn't want to overwhelm him, so he wasn't interested in lunch. But, I asked him why the Attorney General's office isn't right on the addition of Aspartame in Milk, without labeling, as if we don't have consumer, citizen or human rights to know what we're ingesting? Do the Government Agencies involved with this and other criminal acts, actually own us, and have the right to force medicate us with fluoride, mercury in dental amalgams, aspartame and vaccines? 

When he suggested contacting the FDA on this particular issue, I reminded him that the CEO/Agency Appointees/Government Appointees all play musical chairs, and corporate America has ensured consumers have no rights.  Organic and Health associations send in thousands of signatures on petitions to be ignored or further lied to and defrauded by voting 'errors'.  Why, I asked, are Attorney Generals all over this country not speaking out? Is it because they are afraid of being replaced or worse? Where are the people with courage and integrity, to speak up for us? Where are the leaders?

It's time to put up a Wall of Fame-like the murdered DC Madame, and Sheriff Arpaio,  and the Wall of Shame. Fill in your own blanks...

Update: 4-15-13: Before I file a complaint with the Atty. General's office as the first step, I called Carpet Mill Outlet to speak to the owner. I was connected to the General Manager-Kevin Harrison, after Dean Erickson picked up the phone. Kevin wanted to know what my call was concerning when I asked him for the owner's name, which he gave as Rob, and later, with insistence, Rob Pickens. I told him after I had the owner's name, I would brief him. As I gave him a summary, including how Dean had seemed so amused when I called after finding the carpet was indeed a bait and switch, he tried to get off the phone. I told him I'd speak to the owner and let him decide what to do. I also told him perhaps Dean would be amused when he read the account on my personal blog.
The number: 503-786-3170 was the general number, and I was told by Cindy, a receptionist- when I called it, that the owner "was in a meeting". I left my name and number, and am waiting for his call. 
I called again in a couple of days to hear Rob Pickens say he hadn't known about this. To Carpet Mill's credit, Rob Pickens, the owner, is sending Kevin out on Tuesday to look at the difference in carpet. I hope we can settle this and move on with life. I just want them to make it right.

April 24-2013 Update: Carpet Mill's Manager came yesterday at 1:00 as scheduled, and though he kept insisting the carpet was what he would have expected to see, and they had only bought two rolls of it, I gave him a sample of both carpets, obviously from different rolls, and different grades of products. I asked him if someone had mistakenly been sold my carpet. He couldn't come up with anyone. I told him to let the owner decide what to do, and that I expected the carpet to be discounted. 

This morning, Kevin called to say the sample I had from the original roll must have been better quality carpet, and offered $4 a yard off the order, as a refund. They are supposed to cut the check by Friday. 

May 5, 2013. So far, I've heard the check would be cut, the accountant will be in on Friday-"So, I'll expect the check Saturday". "Oh, no, they might be in on Saturday." I say, "So, Monday?" Kevin has seemed very nervous. Perhaps one problem is him calling my cell phone vs. the home phone that I leave, for a delay in messaging, but...???
I've heard: They didn't cut the check, because they didn't know what it was for. Well, it was cut, but they're waiting for the owner's signature. It is sent. Two days later, and no check, I hear they sent it to the last address vs. the current one Kevin came to, to inspect the carpet. The check was sent back. I call and ask for the owner, and Trish sends me to Kevin, who says it will be resent. This is Portland, where it should be in my mailbox the next day. Two days max. No check two days later. I call and get Dean. Kevin will be in on Sunday, the 5th. Today. I call and tell Kevin there's no check. Did you mail it yourself, I ask. No, he didn't. The office girl did. To what address? He says the address, and falters on the lot #. 

May 2, I called the owner's voicemail after being directed to the manager, Kevin. I say I want to finish this business, and I keep hearing all kinds of stalling, and it's sounding like fraud to me. Rob Pickens calls, seems angry, tells me that I've been the most difficult customer (you mean after being blackmailed to keep the carpet order or pay 25% of the order, and then getting a different carpet, at least $4 less a square yard? How long have they been in business, anyway, if I'm the 'most difficult customer', I wonder. It's a ploy to intimidate by guilt. I'm not Catholic or Mormon, so it doesn't work.) Though I tell him Kevin said he was resending it, Rob suggests he should put a stop payment on the check, to which I see further games, and say I've told him twice, the check came back, and was resent. Do NOT put a stop payment on anything. No check two days later. 

When I call today, Sunday, I tell Kevin if I don't receive it on Monday, they can put a stop payment on the check, and I'll come in when Rob Pickens is in, so he can make a new check out to me. Kevin doesn't offer when he'll be in, only a vague 'in the afternoon'. Rob told me that Kevin is his son-in-law, and is an honest man. I'm willing to go that stretch, and hope this will be worked out soon.

Strangely, Trish is nice to me when I called on Saturday, with no check in the mail. She says she is only coming into this on the end, and anything that could go wrong, has. After having a lifetime of this crazy energy, and not wanting to attract any more, I know that mistakes happen. I believe in Win/Win. 

I am still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but tomorrow is Monday May 6th. My carpet was installed on April 13th, 2013, Saturday. 

May 12. I received the check to refund the difference in carpet products bought vs. received. I went to cash it at Wells Fargo. It costs $7.50 if you don't personally have an account at their bank, despite the check being drawn from their bank. (Bank of America charges $6,  which I learned in an earlier check-cashing experience.) I then had to go to my own bank, not accepting that kind of fee, and my bank had just closed. So, I went back the next day, hoping this was the end of this episode. I asked what a stop payment would do, and was told Wells Fargo charges about $30-35 to do that, and my bank would also charge. So far, so good. I would never do business with Carpet Mill Outlet again, or advise others to, either. 

Questions? Contact me at leangreencafe@yahoo.com